Guns N Roses - Patience

As far as I am concerned, Guns N Roses only have four studio albums. “The Spaghetti Incident” is a cover album, it does not count, and “Chinese Democracy” does not have Slash or Duff, so it is not Guns N Roses album and it does not count either. Feel free to argue with me all you want; arguing with strangers is one of the many services the Internet provides us.

Guns N Rose’s second studio album “G N’ R Lies” barely qualifies as a studio album, but I count as one because it is half studio album, and half live album of songs Guns N Roses never recorded in a studio. The way I rationalizes this to myself is that those live songs are the closest thing there is to a studio recording for those songs, and the studio songs are good enough to make an EP on their own. Combined, these two parts make a good album.

It is a good album.

Thus, Guns N’ Roses have four studio albums, at least according to me.

The album “G N’ R Lies” is exactly as I described. The first side is four live songs that Guns N Roses used to play in their extreme early days that never made it onto their debut album “Appetite of Destruction.” The second side of the album was four original studio recorded tracks. I am not a huge fan of the first side of “G N’ R Lies,” those four live tracks are very raw, which is assuredly the reason why die hard Guns N Roses fan enjoy them, but I feel the recordings are a little too rough. The second half however, I am very fond of. All four songs, “Patience,” “Used to Love Her,” “You’re Crazy,” and “One in a Million,” are firmly etched into my memory. Like most people, “Patience” is the song I know best and appreciate uppermost from “G N’ R Lies.”

Guns N Roses’ “Patience” is significant for a few reasons.

“Patience” was the big hit song from “G N’ R Lies,” and really, it was kind of the only one. Other songs from the album would get plenty of play in concerts, but most of the rest of the album never got played on the radio.

When we look back on Guns N Roses music as a whole, “Patience” represents a transition in Guns N Roses, and the differences between “Patience” and every other Guns N Roses song at the time of it’s release make the change in Guns N Roses obvious, especially in hindsight. “Patience” is the first rock ballad in Guns N Roses repertoire. This was the first time Guns N Roes released a song that was entirely acoustic. We would see more of this style of song writing on the “Use You Illusion” albums, but rock ballads are few on those as well, making “Patience” unique due to its restrained acoustic style. While rock ballads were not a new thing, the popularity of “Patience” did contribute to the growing trend and did assist rock stars with their comfort level expressing their more sensitive side.

It is conventionally believed that this song was written about Axel Rose’s now ex-wife Erin Everly. At the time, 1988, Axel and Erin were going through some troubles and Axel captured his feelings in the song “Patience.” Axel’s writing this song, I believe in significant, in and of itself. A very style of song for Guns N Roses leading to the more emotional “Use You Illusion” albums, but all of that, is because of Axel Rose. He wanted to more than a rock star, he wanted to be a poet, and “Patience” is one of the more beautiful and obvious examples of Axel stepping out of the rock star image and letting his feelings pour out.

Perhaps the most obvious reason “Patience” is so memorable and popular is that it is a great song. It is a very moody song. It is sad but hopeful. It has that deeply personal touch from Axel making the whole experience of listening to it feel intimate, but at the same time, the sort of emotions Axel is expressing are so universal it is natural we relate to the song of uncertain love. However, it is still rock and roll enough to satisfy that rebel spirit I so often talk about. That is the perfect recipe for a rock ballad, mellow and emotional, but still rock and roll.

My favorite part of “Patience” is the outro. You know that part where Axel and Duff repeat “just a little patience, yeah, yeah,” that part, or more specifically the part where Axel sings his final bit of poetry.

“I've been walking the streets at night,
Just trying to get it right.
It's hard to see with so many around,
You know I don't like being stuck in the crowd.
And the streets don't change but maybe the names,
I ain't got time for the game ‘cause I need you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah but I need you.
Oh, I need you.
Oh, I need you.
Ooh this time.”

Yeah, that part. That is rock ballad gold right there.

This is actually one of the few songs I learned to play on guitar, well badly play on guitar. Those mellow rifts sure are calming, invoking exactly the resonates Guns N Roses intended; just a little patience. Trouble waters are ahead for me, so maybe it is not a coincidence that this song came back into my mind and ear so much recently, I am going to need a little patience.

- King of Braves

Guns N' Roses - November Rain

There are three forces that comprise the entity of Guns N’ Roses, Slash, Duff and Axel Rose, though an honorable mention should go to Izzy. Never was there anything worth talking about regarding Guns N’ Roses when even one of the mentioned three was missing, yet soon enough, I shall be. Despite being one of the most famous American rock bands of all time and often considered the very best rock band to come out of the eighties, Guns N’ Roses have a very limited body of work.

"Appetite for Destruction" is by far
Guns N' Roses' most popular album

In 1987 Guns N’ Roses released their debut album “Appetite for Destruction.” It was a huge hit. The California rock album was such a huge hit that at the time it rivalled the success of The Beatles debut album and to this day is one of the most successful/best selling debut albums of all time. So Guns N’ Roses were off to a really good start.

In 1988 Guns N’ Roses released their second album “G N R Lies” which paled in comparison to “Appetite for Destruction” both in sales and overall critical review. Still “Patience” is a great song.

"Use Your Illusion 2"

The last thing to note by Guns N’ Roses was the “Use Your Illusion” double album released separately in 1991. And with “Use Your Illusion” part 1 and 2 we have covered the only four albums of any importance by Guns N’ Roses.

Oh sure, in 1993 Guns N’ Roses released “The Spaghetti Incident?” a cover album best known for their rendition of The Rolling Stones “Sympathy For The Devil” which appeared on the soundtrack for the movie “Interview with a Vampire,” but “The Spaghetti Incident” is a cover album, and the absence of original material makes it not really a Guns N’ Roses album, per say. Also in 2008 there was “Chinese Democracy” and therein lies a problem.

Most everyone knows that Slash and Duff left Guns N’ Roses after “The Spaghetti Incident,” or more accurately Guns N’ Roses broke up, and as soon as this happened nothing any of them did afterward felt like Guns N’ Roses, not even “Guns N’ Roses.” Axel Rose came up with the band name and as such he felt entitled to use it after the band broke up, but Axel was a fool to think anyone would fail to see past the misplaced label. After fifteen years of inactivity in the music industry “Chinese Democracy” was released, which is not a Guns N’ Roses album, it is an Axel Rose album. The truly sad thing is this is effectively, creatively, what Axel wanted.

There is a linear trend when looking at the history of Guns N’ Roses. They started out a really heavy rock band with nearly every song on “Appetite for Destruction” being a hard rock song with serious drums and bass guitar. “G N R Lies” was a softer album, and the “Use Your Illusion” albums had piano solos and ballads throughout and all of a sudden things did not feel right. Guns N’ Roses broke up was because Axel had assumed too much creative control, also he’s an asshole and nobody in the band could put up with him anymore, but it should not be ignored that Axel’s not so hard approach to rock and roll is what really changed Guns N’ Roses and ultimately cost him Slash and Duff, as well as Izzy. Just looking at the sales of the Guns N’ Roses discography and it is clear that fans agreed with the sentiments of Slash, Duff and Izzy, “Appetite for Destruction” has out sold the rest of the discography by a large margin. Axel, being a dick, assumed control of the band and took a primary creative control of the “Use Your Illusion” albums and this was probably one of the first of many major offensives made towards his band mates, and when you put yourselves in the shoes of Guns N’ Roses, the real band members thereof, it would be offensive to give up part of your hard rock intensity so your egotistical front man can express his sensitive side, and consequently it is no wonder Guns N’ Roses broke up, again the real one.

So basically Axel Rose is a dick, and not a heavy rock and roller, and it took him fifteen years of preparation to embarrass himself with “Chinese Democracy.”

And embarrass himself he did:

However...

There is little denying that Axel is in fact, or at least at one point was, a creative musical genius, and we have to look no further than “Use Your Illusion” parts one and two as proof of this. I love “Appetite For Destruction” everyone does, it is rock and roll through and through, however there is something to be said about the softer touch and the greater variety of style on the “Use Your Illusion” albums,” and while rocking out may be the greatest thing ever (ever!), experimenting with new ideas and self expression is basically art summed up, and by this standard “Use Your Illusion” is a very artistic set of albums by comparison. Furthermore, I think it is safe to say the artistic turn by Guns N’ Roses in the earlier nineties is primarily the result of Axel’s influence. Even though “Appetite for Destruction” is the most popular Guns N’ Roses album I do feel “Use Your Illusion” double album showcases creative growth and musical technical development, also the “Use Your Illusion” albums contain some of the best Guns N’ Roses songs, most notably “November Rain.”

“November Rain” is not a hard rock and roll song in the narrowest, most closed minded, sense of judgemental genre classification. What kind of bad asses have piano solos? And other such stupidities may disqualify “November Rain” as a candidate for Guns N’ Roses best song in the minds of some, but I nominate “November Rain” not only as Guns N’ Roses best song, but also Axel Rose’s magnum opus. The nine minute rock ballad does everything an epic sort of song needs to do to feel grand and deep. There is a soothing introduction, clever little locks of poetry throughout, and an appropriate narrative that intensifies in both theme and volume as time goes on. Around the seven minute mark the drums pick up and a new and faster rhythm begins and almost a completely different song comes forward, a hard song, a rock song. Like a well deserved climax after a mellow moment of relaxation, or like dessert after dinner if you really want a metaphor, “November Rain” suddenly becomes the sort of song that befits Guns N’ Roses in that it is now has moments of both hard and soft, it is both ballad and rock song. It is a great song, and so perfectly captures both moods but it also shows the two sides of Guns N’ Roses. I said earlier there are three (arguably four) forces behind Guns N’ Roses but creatively there is really only two, the united voice of the rock band and Axel the misunderstood poet, and we get to see a little bit of both in “November Rain.” Axel gets a chance to sing poetry and express that rock ballad side of himself and then we get a fast paced rocking conclusion. There never was, and never again, a Guns N’ Roses song that so perfectly captured the spirit of the band, in its whole, than “November Rain” and never did Axel create such a beautiful song ever again. Despite his faults, and they appear to be many, Axel showed he had the talent to be a great song writer, and at one point he had the kind of band with the high caliber of talent that is very rare to back him up and the result was Guns N’ Roses and his finest moment is “November Rain.”

We will forever lament that we never got more than four true Guns N’ Roses albums, and it will always sting that much more knowing that the factors preventing us from getting more Guns N’ Roses were petty things like ego and a lack of creative cooperation. But at least, at the very least, we got “November Rain” before everything fell apart. We may forever look upon Axel Rose as something of a screw up and an asshole who ruined Guns N’ Roses but when our frustrations subside with calmer minds we know, we all know, that without Axel there could have been no true Guns N’ Roses and somewhere inside that man’s mind are beautiful things like “November Rain.”

- King of Braves

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